Change Leadership Conversations

Change Leadership Conversations

Change Leadership Conversations explores the insights and practical experiences of thought leaders, change management practitioners, and industry change leaders on what it takes to lead and respond to change in today’s disruptive and fast-evolving world of work. This podcast also goes hand in hand with the Change Leadership Conference held every spring in Toronto.

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Recent Episodes

Leading Change Across Systems: Boardroom, Government and Education | Ep 28
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July 1, 2026

Leading Change Across Systems: Boardroom, Government and Education | Ep 28

In this episode, I sit with Dr. Akolisa Ufodike to explore what it really takes to lead change across very different systems.From boardrooms and corporate leadership to government, education, and public service, change does not behave the same way everywhere.So what happens when leaders try to apply one approach across all of them?Dr. Ufodike shares insights from a career spanning CFO and COO roles, academia, entrepreneurship, and serving as Deputy Minister in Alberta.Together, we explor
Why Traditional Change Management Fails in a Complex World | Ep 27
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June 18, 2026

Why Traditional Change Management Fails in a Complex World | Ep 27

In this episode, we discuss systems thinking, chaos theory, and the complexity of leading change.Traditional change management assumes a level of predictability that simply does not exist in many modern organizations.In this conversation, Rick Nason breaks down why leaders often struggle when they apply structured, linear thinking to environments that are fundamentally complex, adaptive, and unpredictable.Using systems thinking and chaos theory, Rick explains the difference between s
Getting to Yes: Building Organizational Buy-in For Change Management | Ep 26
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May 14, 2026

Getting to Yes: Building Organizational Buy-in For Change Management | Ep 26

In today’s episode of Change Leadership Conversations, we bring you a practical panel discussion recorded live at the Change Leadership Conference on a challenge many change managers know well: how do you get to yes for change management?I’m joined by Silvia Fraser, Blake Bell and Esther Akinrinlola for a rich conversation on building organizational buy-in, showing value early, and embedding change capability across the organization.This episode explores what it takes to move change manageme
The Future of Change Management | Ep 25
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April 30, 2026

The Future of Change Management | Ep 25

In today’s episode of Change Leadership Conversations, we bring you a powerful panel discussion recorded live at the Change Leadership Conference on the future of change management.I’m joined by Manisha Paliwal, Jason Little, Myles Bartlett, and Rich Batchelor for a rich and thought-provoking conversation on how the role of change leaders is evolving in today’s fast-changing world.From AI and adaptive organizations to coaching, curiosity, and change enablement, this discussion explores what
Navigating Change, and Disrupting Status Quo | Ep 24
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April 16, 2026

Navigating Change, and Disrupting Status Quo | Ep 24

In today’s episode of Change Leadership Conversations, the tables turn as Cher Jones sits down with me, Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta, for a deeply personal and thought-provoking conversation recorded live at the Change Leadership Conference.Together, we discuss what it truly means to disrupt the status quo, not just in organizations, but in how we lead and respond to change. We also take listeners behind the scenes of the Change Leadership Conference, the thinking behind the theme, and the evolution o
Building Your Brand as a Change Leader | Ep 23
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April 1, 2026

Building Your Brand as a Change Leader | Ep 23

In this episode of Change Leadership Conversations, Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta sits down with Michelle Joliat, Senior Vice President at Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan, for a powerful and practical conversation on what it really means to build your brand as a change leader.Michelle’s journey spans management consulting, digital transformation, and enterprise leadership across organizations like RBC, BMO, and Ontario Teachers’. But what stands out is not just what she has done, it is how she has shown